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		<title>By: my 1 year anniversary of leaving ys — whyismarko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-1191777</link>
		<dc:creator>my 1 year anniversary of leaving ys — whyismarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] look back on a horrible firing i experienced early in my youth ministry career, and i can say with complete truthfulness that i [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-37874</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marko,
 
I never heard any of this stuff.  Interesting, to say the least.  

FYI, my understanding is that CCC is extremely healthy right now.  The new lead pastor...Mark Ashton from Willow (i think he&#039;s actually younger than us)...seems to be leading very, very well.  Additionally, I know that there has been significant changes in how the board operates.  Some of these changes took place while I was there, but most since I left (led by a number of awesome pastors like joe, phil, and a guy name wendal).  

anyway, thanks for sharing your story.  again, even though I was there almost 8 years, I never heard this.  And what crazy rules...pretty wierd.    I never had to give my tax statements to prove 10%.  That&#039;s nuts!

Kent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marko,</p>
<p>I never heard any of this stuff.  Interesting, to say the least.  </p>
<p>FYI, my understanding is that CCC is extremely healthy right now.  The new lead pastor&#8230;Mark Ashton from Willow (i think he&#8217;s actually younger than us)&#8230;seems to be leading very, very well.  Additionally, I know that there has been significant changes in how the board operates.  Some of these changes took place while I was there, but most since I left (led by a number of awesome pastors like joe, phil, and a guy name wendal).  </p>
<p>anyway, thanks for sharing your story.  again, even though I was there almost 8 years, I never heard this.  And what crazy rules&#8230;pretty wierd.    I never had to give my tax statements to prove 10%.  That&#8217;s nuts!</p>
<p>Kent</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-22542</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark- I just did a google search &quot;pastors who have been fired&quot;.   I am going through this right now and  just needed to see if there way anyone out there who could relate.  Thankyou for sharing.  You story is very close to mine and it gives me hope that this will pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark- I just did a google search &#8220;pastors who have been fired&#8221;.   I am going through this right now and  just needed to see if there way anyone out there who could relate.  Thankyou for sharing.  You story is very close to mine and it gives me hope that this will pass.</p>
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		<title>By: ysmarko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-17829</link>
		<dc:creator>ysmarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ough, kent followed me as the junior high pastor at a church in omaha where i&#8217;d been fired.  he was there a number of years, become the student ministries guy there, then moved on to the denominational [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ough, kent followed me as the junior high pastor at a church in omaha where i&#8217;d been fired.  he was there a number of years, become the student ministries guy there, then moved on to the denominational [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ysmarko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-4977</link>
		<dc:creator>ysmarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  best attempt at dating this would put it at about 1990, and was during my omaha era (read here for the end of that era).  i&#8217;m pretty sure this is a missions trip setting (the vans, the building in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  best attempt at dating this would put it at about 1990, and was during my omaha era (read here for the end of that era).  i&#8217;m pretty sure this is a missions trip setting (the vans, the building in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh, yes...manipulative boards...and new sr. &quot;pastor&quot;&#039;s...gotta love &#039;em.  lotsa lies and deceit. so much for being the &quot;church&quot;.
no contact from anyone at the church (note small &quot;c&quot;)
im just getting my head above water after being  &quot;asked&quot; (yeah, right) to leave after a 20 year volunteer stint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh, yes&#8230;manipulative boards&#8230;and new sr. &#8220;pastor&#8221;&#8216;s&#8230;gotta love &#8216;em.  lotsa lies and deceit. so much for being the &#8220;church&#8221;.<br />
no contact from anyone at the church (note small &#8220;c&#8221;)<br />
im just getting my head above water after being  &#8220;asked&#8221; (yeah, right) to leave after a 20 year volunteer stint.</p>
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		<title>By: ysmarko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>ysmarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  it in my desk:  pretty much never to look at it again. 	sidebar:  this is the church that fired me.  guess my stunningly-lettered strategic plan wasn&#8217;t quite enough! 	at my next church, after the seni [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  it in my desk:  pretty much never to look at it again. 	sidebar:  this is the church that fired me.  guess my stunningly-lettered strategic plan wasn&#8217;t quite enough! 	at my next church, after the seni [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how church can sometimes seem more like hell, isn&#039;t it?  I have had my hellish nightmare of an experience as well.  There&#039;s a book by Gene Edwards called &quot;Equisite Agony&quot; (the original title was &quot;Crucified By Christians&quot; that, although I didn&#039;t completely agree with it, was very helpful in beginning the healing process for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how church can sometimes seem more like hell, isn&#8217;t it?  I have had my hellish nightmare of an experience as well.  There&#8217;s a book by Gene Edwards called &#8220;Equisite Agony&#8221; (the original title was &#8220;Crucified By Christians&#8221; that, although I didn&#8217;t completely agree with it, was very helpful in beginning the healing process for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for sharing that. Unfortunately power issues seem to crop up a fair amount in places like churches where you wouldn&#039;t necessarily expect them. Some people have a twisted view of what God is calling them to in the church.  Thank God for His mercy and restoration to those of us who have been rejected by men but approved by Him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for sharing that. Unfortunately power issues seem to crop up a fair amount in places like churches where you wouldn&#8217;t necessarily expect them. Some people have a twisted view of what God is calling them to in the church.  Thank God for His mercy and restoration to those of us who have been rejected by men but approved by Him.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2005/on-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your story and tried to relate it to my congregation, where an intern youth pastor is getting beat up right now.  It doesn&#039;t have the same depth of dysfunction in leadership or structure that you shared and hasn&#039;t lead to a firing or resignation; however, it helped me question my role as a lay person in &quot;pastoral care&quot; for the troubled intern.  Thank you for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your story and tried to relate it to my congregation, where an intern youth pastor is getting beat up right now.  It doesn&#8217;t have the same depth of dysfunction in leadership or structure that you shared and hasn&#8217;t lead to a firing or resignation; however, it helped me question my role as a lay person in &#8220;pastoral care&#8221; for the troubled intern.  Thank you for sharing.</p>
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