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		<title>By: Matt Schaffner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schaffner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  The point is making a point by telling a story.  At NYWC St. Louis last weekend Ralph Winter made the point that it&#039;s the way we tell the story: look up &quot;Brokeback to the Future&quot; on YouTube and see how they switched the idea thru a few cuts.  These clips are about making a point to tell a story, not something to be analyzed on their own.  As a youth pastor, I would HATE it if someone analyzed my stuff based on the video clips alone... (that and it might just get me fired...).  Just a thought on some of the previous comments...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  The point is making a point by telling a story.  At NYWC St. Louis last weekend Ralph Winter made the point that it&#8217;s the way we tell the story: look up &#8220;Brokeback to the Future&#8221; on YouTube and see how they switched the idea thru a few cuts.  These clips are about making a point to tell a story, not something to be analyzed on their own.  As a youth pastor, I would HATE it if someone analyzed my stuff based on the video clips alone&#8230; (that and it might just get me fired&#8230;).  Just a thought on some of the previous comments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Greever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Greever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone asked about buying these videos for download: go to http://communitychristian.org and click on eStore. They&#039;re $10 each. 

I made them, along with my funny guys Eric (Christian) and Elic (Christ-follower). In general, we were just having fun. But taken out of the context of the teaching for those four weeks, not all the jokes translate... at least, the intent/point might be unclear. So don&#039;t pick them apart too much.

We had fun with them, we think they&#039;re funny, and it totally rocks how many people are talking about them on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone asked about buying these videos for download: go to <a href="http://communitychristian.org" rel="nofollow">http://communitychristian.org</a> and click on eStore. They&#8217;re $10 each. </p>
<p>I made them, along with my funny guys Eric (Christian) and Elic (Christ-follower). In general, we were just having fun. But taken out of the context of the teaching for those four weeks, not all the jokes translate&#8230; at least, the intent/point might be unclear. So don&#8217;t pick them apart too much.</p>
<p>We had fun with them, we think they&#8217;re funny, and it totally rocks how many people are talking about them on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: graphicartist2k5</title>
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		<dc:creator>graphicartist2k5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the message in these ads, mainly because they&#039;re so true. and i don&#039;t see how it&#039;s &quot;alienating&quot; anyone. i think the problem is that the older generation wants for things to be done in their fashion, when the truth is that God doesn&#039;t do ANYTHING in our fashion. God is God, we are not. it&#039;s that simple. and God doesn&#039;t need our permission to change things around so that things will be fresh. who in the world really wants for things to stay the same? i don&#039;t, i&#039;m always open for change, because i know that change is inevitable, and that goes for my walk with God. that&#039;s definitely one thing i&#039;ve learned over the course of time i&#039;ve been alive, that things WILL change, no matter how much i may not want them to. and the fact that there have been splits amongst so many Christian churches just proves the point that they obviously were and still are not in full agreement with God&#039;s Word, because if they were, then there wouldn&#039;t be any of this religiousity that so many people associate with Christianity. simply put, there&#039;s waaaaay too much doctrine and dogma out there and not enough TRUTH. it&#039;s amazing how so many people will go and believe any little thing, just because it may be the latest spiritual craze, all the while not questioning it. i&#039;m not saying that we as Christians should question whether or not God is who He is. i&#039;m simply saying that we as Christians are supposed to have WAAAY more discernment concerning spiritual matters than to allow ourselves to be led around like lambs to the slaughter, so to speak. if there&#039;s a question that any Christian has concerning what a pastor/preacher/bishop says, then ASK GOD ABOUT IT. don&#039;t just go by what they&#039;re saying, if there&#039;s a check in your spirit, because they could have been led astray by some wrong doctrines and dogma. remember this: where there&#039;s no relationship with Jesus, there&#039;s no life, and there&#039;s most likely a whole bunch of religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the message in these ads, mainly because they&#8217;re so true. and i don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s &#8220;alienating&#8221; anyone. i think the problem is that the older generation wants for things to be done in their fashion, when the truth is that God doesn&#8217;t do ANYTHING in our fashion. God is God, we are not. it&#8217;s that simple. and God doesn&#8217;t need our permission to change things around so that things will be fresh. who in the world really wants for things to stay the same? i don&#8217;t, i&#8217;m always open for change, because i know that change is inevitable, and that goes for my walk with God. that&#8217;s definitely one thing i&#8217;ve learned over the course of time i&#8217;ve been alive, that things WILL change, no matter how much i may not want them to. and the fact that there have been splits amongst so many Christian churches just proves the point that they obviously were and still are not in full agreement with God&#8217;s Word, because if they were, then there wouldn&#8217;t be any of this religiousity that so many people associate with Christianity. simply put, there&#8217;s waaaaay too much doctrine and dogma out there and not enough TRUTH. it&#8217;s amazing how so many people will go and believe any little thing, just because it may be the latest spiritual craze, all the while not questioning it. i&#8217;m not saying that we as Christians should question whether or not God is who He is. i&#8217;m simply saying that we as Christians are supposed to have WAAAY more discernment concerning spiritual matters than to allow ourselves to be led around like lambs to the slaughter, so to speak. if there&#8217;s a question that any Christian has concerning what a pastor/preacher/bishop says, then ASK GOD ABOUT IT. don&#8217;t just go by what they&#8217;re saying, if there&#8217;s a check in your spirit, because they could have been led astray by some wrong doctrines and dogma. remember this: where there&#8217;s no relationship with Jesus, there&#8217;s no life, and there&#8217;s most likely a whole bunch of religion.</p>
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		<title>By: eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet!  More ammo to further alienate the passionate Christian youth culture from the more traditional &#039;passionate&#039; older generation.  I love it.  
Alright...thought provoking; I am just one of those that thinks maybe we can pull &quot;them&quot; along thru grace and mercy rather than distancing our selves from other Christians. peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet!  More ammo to further alienate the passionate Christian youth culture from the more traditional &#8216;passionate&#8217; older generation.  I love it.<br />
Alright&#8230;thought provoking; I am just one of those that thinks maybe we can pull &#8220;them&#8221; along thru grace and mercy rather than distancing our selves from other Christians. peace</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The videos are funny...
but I think we have quickly advanced upon an arrogance that all of us &quot;post modern Christ followers&quot; need to be incredibly weary of. &quot;The hand cannot say to the foot I don&#039;t need you.&quot; 
there are many in the body of Christ that we would easily scoff at. many of us feel painted with the same brush and therefore just wish those &quot;modern&quot; Christians would just keep quiet. But those &quot;moderneres&quot; are members of the body of Christ and the only one who can say otherwise is the only one with the authority to judge. We are not a holy remnant of Christendom as much as (in arrogance) we often raise ourselves up to be. We are not here to distance ourselves from steriotypes by makign fun of the &#039;other party.&#039; We are not here to seperate the sheep from the goats rather we are here to inspire people to be sheep. 

This is getting long...
Since the reformation (500 years ago) Christianity has been dividing faster than you can shake a stick at it. I vote for unity, learning from eachother and inspiring eachother to be more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The videos are funny&#8230;<br />
but I think we have quickly advanced upon an arrogance that all of us &#8220;post modern Christ followers&#8221; need to be incredibly weary of. &#8220;The hand cannot say to the foot I don&#8217;t need you.&#8221;<br />
there are many in the body of Christ that we would easily scoff at. many of us feel painted with the same brush and therefore just wish those &#8220;modern&#8221; Christians would just keep quiet. But those &#8220;moderneres&#8221; are members of the body of Christ and the only one who can say otherwise is the only one with the authority to judge. We are not a holy remnant of Christendom as much as (in arrogance) we often raise ourselves up to be. We are not here to distance ourselves from steriotypes by makign fun of the &#8216;other party.&#8217; We are not here to seperate the sheep from the goats rather we are here to inspire people to be sheep. </p>
<p>This is getting long&#8230;<br />
Since the reformation (500 years ago) Christianity has been dividing faster than you can shake a stick at it. I vote for unity, learning from eachother and inspiring eachother to be more.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Havener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Havener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading (don&#039;t read into that) and came across this quote which may apply.  &quot;If humor withough faith is in danger of dissolving into cynicism and dispair, faith without humor is in danger of turning into arrogance and intolerance.&quot; (Conrad Hyers, I believe)   So I choose to smile and be amused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading (don&#8217;t read into that) and came across this quote which may apply.  &#8220;If humor withough faith is in danger of dissolving into cynicism and dispair, faith without humor is in danger of turning into arrogance and intolerance.&#8221; (Conrad Hyers, I believe)   So I choose to smile and be amused.</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rick, someone commented (on a previous post) that there is freeware out there that allows you to rip you-tube videos.  but i don&#039;t know what it is.  perhaps someone can pipe in again with that knowledge, or you can search for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rick, someone commented (on a previous post) that there is freeware out there that allows you to rip you-tube videos.  but i don&#8217;t know what it is.  perhaps someone can pipe in again with that knowledge, or you can search for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know where you can go to purchase these videos for download? I&#039;ve read everyone&#039;s comments but I didn&#039;t notice a link. Any help would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know where you can go to purchase these videos for download? I&#8217;ve read everyone&#8217;s comments but I didn&#8217;t notice a link. Any help would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: KenWritez</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenWritez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed these videos, thank you for posting them and to whoever made them.

I describe myself as &quot;post-evangelical&quot; because I can&#039;t identify wholly with the evangelical culture camp anymore. Too much anti-intellectualism, contempt for art, legalism dressed up as hliness and too much performance as &quot;right relationship with God.&quot; Also, it seems fraught with a bunker mentality that regards believers in other doctrinal camps as suspect or second-class.

These videos do a great job of highlighting the difference between following the letter of the law and following the spirit. I&#039;ve heard more conservative believers quote the Christian actor about &quot;wearing one&#039;s best to church to honor God.&quot; 

Kudos to the writers, actors and producers of these videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed these videos, thank you for posting them and to whoever made them.</p>
<p>I describe myself as &#8220;post-evangelical&#8221; because I can&#8217;t identify wholly with the evangelical culture camp anymore. Too much anti-intellectualism, contempt for art, legalism dressed up as hliness and too much performance as &#8220;right relationship with God.&#8221; Also, it seems fraught with a bunker mentality that regards believers in other doctrinal camps as suspect or second-class.</p>
<p>These videos do a great job of highlighting the difference between following the letter of the law and following the spirit. I&#8217;ve heard more conservative believers quote the Christian actor about &#8220;wearing one&#8217;s best to church to honor God.&#8221; </p>
<p>Kudos to the writers, actors and producers of these videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all four of them! (All four are on YouTube, labeled &quot;I&#039;m a Christ Follower (Mac vs. PC Parody)&quot;.) I love the Mac and PC commercials, but these are much better ... because they&#039;re true! There are two types of Christians out there, and teens (especially) today would rather be Christ Followers than Christians.

I can&#039;t wait for more to come out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all four of them! (All four are on YouTube, labeled &#8220;I&#8217;m a Christ Follower (Mac vs. PC Parody)&#8221;.) I love the Mac and PC commercials, but these are much better &#8230; because they&#8217;re true! There are two types of Christians out there, and teens (especially) today would rather be Christ Followers than Christians.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for more to come out!</p>
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