faith and certainty

January 5, 2007

craig ferguson, in his opening banter on his show, did a bit starting with pat robertson’s prediction of a terrorist attack in 2007, but moved on to other funny commentary on christianity, including a fascinating (at least i think), passionate few seconds of opinionating about faith and certainty not being able to co-exist.

here’s a link to the video.

(ht to bob carlton)

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Eric Wakeling January 5, 2007 at 1:52 pm

marko – i think that’s a bad link and that video sounds interesting

kyle. January 5, 2007 at 2:35 pm

I didn’t get see link to work either…

But I did see Craig’s bit last night. “If you have certainty you don’t need faith. If you have faith, you don’t need certainty.”

Amazing to me how many folks seem to need certainty to have faith…

marko January 5, 2007 at 2:47 pm

sorry – i’ll try to fix the link later today. i’m about to get on a plane, and don’t have access to it right now.

marko January 5, 2007 at 2:54 pm
riddle January 5, 2007 at 7:03 pm

that was the best sermon i’ve heard in a long time!

bob c January 5, 2007 at 8:26 pm

first try did not work

my handy dictionary defines thus:

certain: fixed; agreed upon; settled
Origin: 1250–1300 *cert?nus, equiv. to L cert(us) sure, settled

faith: belief that is not based on proof
Origin: 1200–50 feid, feit of fidés trust, akin to f?dere to trust.

My own experience of following Jesus is unsettled & far from sure – but trust – ah, that is it.

Pedro January 5, 2007 at 10:15 pm

Martin Luther described faith as, ” Faith is a living, bold trust in God’s grace, so certain of God’s favor that it would risk death a thousand times trusting in it.”

Wikipedia.com describes faith as, “Faith is commonly known as a belief, trust or confidence often based on a transpersonal relationship with God, a higher power, elements of nature and/or a perception of the human race as a whole.”

What is remarkable about both of these definitions that it seems that faith requires or at the very least produces a certainty about someone or something.

One of my friends always talks about a holy dance that happens between law and grace. Perhaps we need to see this discussion of certainty, arrogance, faith, etc as more a theological dance than a doctrinal stance.

mikey January 6, 2007 at 8:00 am

If you can’t see the video, it’s probably because you don’t have QuickTime loaded on your computer (Apple’s video player). Go here to download free (from the left column):
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html

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