Comments on: the changing church, please? http://whyismarko.com/2007/the-changing-church-please/ life, faith, youth ministry, emerging church, leadership, whimsy Tue, 22 May 2012 11:01:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rusty http://whyismarko.com/2007/the-changing-church-please/comment-page-1/#comment-567479 Rusty Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:27:31 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2117#comment-567479 I love that book. On my evaluation I said you guys should get Alan or Michael to come speak at the convention next year. I love that book. On my evaluation I said you guys should get Alan or Michael to come speak at the convention next year.

]]> By: Chris Zoephel http://whyismarko.com/2007/the-changing-church-please/comment-page-1/#comment-557597 Chris Zoephel Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:37:57 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2117#comment-557597 The tension of building on and being REALLY connected to the past (i.e. the last 2000 years of the church)...and...being able to move and pitch your tent elsewhere is very difficult (as history shows). But...I think it is worth the effort. Good stuff. The tension of building on and being REALLY connected to the past (i.e. the last 2000 years of the church)…and…being able to move and pitch your tent elsewhere is very difficult (as history shows). But…I think it is worth the effort.

Good stuff.

]]> By: Krista D. http://whyismarko.com/2007/the-changing-church-please/comment-page-1/#comment-556127 Krista D. Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:12:58 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2117#comment-556127 We (the leaders of my church= the pastor and I) are struggling with the congregation to impart change. It is very difficult in some cultures because they somehow have ingrained in their head the way they think a church should be, which is old fashioned and traditional, while we are trying to be more relevent in these changing times. It's hard because we don't want to "chase away" any of our members, but at the same time, we don't want to use them as an excuse to stay the same. I think that maybe the main problem is that people don't really understand the purpose of church. The church isn't for you and me, but for US. It's the fellowshipping of believers, not "I go to get fed by the message and then I go home". It's become self-serving, when it's supposed to be about sharing and learning from eachother and being more open and vulnerable. When people change their mentality from "What am I going to get from God in church today?" to "What can I give of myself in church today?", that is when change can happen. Did I go off on a tangent, or is this the type of discussion you were looking for? I dont know, but I think I'm going to say something after worship about it now! We (the leaders of my church= the pastor and I) are struggling with the congregation to impart change. It is very difficult in some cultures because they somehow have ingrained in their head the way they think a church should be, which is old fashioned and traditional, while we are trying to be more relevent in these changing times. It’s hard because we don’t want to “chase away” any of our members, but at the same time, we don’t want to use them as an excuse to stay the same. I think that maybe the main problem is that people don’t really understand the purpose of church. The church isn’t for you and me, but for US. It’s the fellowshipping of believers, not “I go to get fed by the message and then I go home”. It’s become self-serving, when it’s supposed to be about sharing and learning from eachother and being more open and vulnerable. When people change their mentality from “What am I going to get from God in church today?” to “What can I give of myself in church today?”, that is when change can happen. Did I go off on a tangent, or is this the type of discussion you were looking for? I dont know, but I think I’m going to say something after worship about it now!

]]> By: joe troyer http://whyismarko.com/2007/the-changing-church-please/comment-page-1/#comment-553818 joe troyer Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:59:54 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2117#comment-553818 amen. by the way, thanks for referring that book to me. it is challenging and frustrating trying to live and do youth ministry missionally in a church culture that is yet to have any idea what i am talking about. the shaping of things to come though, has challenged me to start by examining my own life before i start on everyone else. peace. amen.
by the way, thanks for referring that book to me. it is challenging and frustrating trying to live and do youth ministry missionally in a church culture that is yet to have any idea what i am talking about.
the shaping of things to come though, has challenged me to start by examining my own life before i start on everyone else.

peace.

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