Comments on: another great “mixed” review of ym3.0

By: iowadave

iowadave — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:12:59 +0000

this is why i love ys and love the convention… people who love kids. people who speak my language. people who get it! you guys are awesome.

By: Sue Van Stelle

Sue Van Stelle — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:18:26 +0000

I haven’t read the book yet (it’s ordered) so forgive me if I’m restating something that’s already there. The idea that, “The message is the same, just the methods change” needs to have some serious deconstruction.

The medium IS the message. That’s why you need quality adults. Christian Smith is right on in his book “Soul Searching” when he says, “They will become what you are.”

Ultimately we are not about entertaining youth long enough so that we can INform youth about Christianity, we are about forming them into Christians. That is best done the way Jesus did it… by setting the example we are to follow.

I would in a heartbeat slash my youth budget in half or more if in return I could have the top ten spiritually mature people within my congregation solely devoted to incarnational youth ministry. Wow, that would be so cool.

By: Chris S.

Chris S. — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:30:35 +0000

Kevin K – Sure parents are of great importance but as you said, not all parents are doing their job. We also have to recognize that there is something that is really healthy about teenagers pulling & pushing their way away from their parents because they are becoming individuals. This is why it is vital for youth workers to be there for teens through this process.

By: Kevin K

Kevin K — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:48:24 +0000

Searching for Quality Adults is always a matter of importance. In fact, in my opinion, my job is to put myself out of a job. Now the chances of this happening are slim. But really, youth ministry should start with Quality Christians parents. The parent should be the ultimate youth pastor to their child, bringing them up in the ways of the Bible. But even in Christian Church family homes this doesn’t happen. They go to church and throw them to the Youth Pastor and sometimes even get angry at the Youth Pastor when their child isn’t living a spiritually mature life.

The most important place for youth ministry is from the parents at home. We need to educate parents on this.

By: iowadave

iowadave — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:21:35 +0000

i havent read the book yet (looking forward to getting at nashville next week) but the adult leader concerns have already been on my mind.

just last night at a meeting i had someone on my committee get upset over a couple bucks spent on an essential part of ministry in my book. i walked out after the meeting wondering if reaching 3.0 is even imaginable if i’m have people struggling to even reach 2.0.

By: Tyler V

Tyler V — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:24:52 +0000

ordered my copy on Monday from YS with some new curriculum. Can’t wait to get it and take a day and interact with it and join the discussion!