Comments on: myspace agrees to make security changes http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/ life, faith, youth ministry, emerging church, leadership, whimsy Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: travis spencer http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-719286 travis spencer Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:56:20 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-719286 Great stuff. I'm a family life pastor in Illinois. We're getting ready to offer a gathering for our parents. We'll be hitting on better communication with their teens and understanding the whole online/MySpace stuff. You've helped offer new info. Thanks. -Travis www.callmetravis.com Great stuff. I’m a family life pastor in Illinois. We’re getting ready to offer a gathering for our parents. We’ll be hitting on better communication with their teens and understanding the whole online/MySpace stuff. You’ve helped offer new info. Thanks.
-Travis
http://www.callmetravis.com

]]> By: tash http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-719205 tash Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:18:00 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-719205 oh doh! i broke my own golden rule and took my comment way off track of the original post. sorry marko. :(. in addition - i can wholeheartedly see the track you're looking down and i'm thinking the exact same thing about limiting the ability of youthworkers to interact online. We ought be making the most of the opportunities that the internet and web-based tools do allow for when it comes to holistic youth care & integration. from my own experience I think it's a heck of a lot easier to talk about holistic care and holistic living with young people when there's little opportunity to hide the 'second life'. So far I have far more positive web experiences with young people than negative. So yeah, I'd be feeling pretty stink about losing that, if.. (BIG IF) Myspace are able to follow through. Interestingly enough - it seems like Facebook are a little more proactive. One of my associates had direct contact from the organisation and their account deleted over what was deemed inappropriate behaviour. oh doh! i broke my own golden rule and took my comment way off track of the original post. sorry marko. :(.

in addition – i can wholeheartedly see the track you’re looking down and i’m thinking the exact same thing about limiting the ability of youthworkers to interact online. We ought be making the most of the opportunities that the internet and web-based tools do allow for when it comes to holistic youth care & integration.

from my own experience I think it’s a heck of a lot easier to talk about holistic care and holistic living with young people when there’s little opportunity to hide the ‘second life’.

So far I have far more positive web experiences with young people than negative. So yeah, I’d be feeling pretty stink about losing that, if.. (BIG IF) Myspace are able to follow through.

Interestingly enough – it seems like Facebook are a little more proactive. One of my associates had direct contact from the organisation and their account deleted over what was deemed inappropriate behaviour.

]]> By: tash http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-719196 tash Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:12:52 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-719196 hmmm... it's interesting though the perception that quality youth work and using the web are somehow on opposite sides of the chasm? I'm exaggerating your point, I'm sure, but still... There is are language, culture and safety thresholds that mean the internet is sometimes just as safe a starting point in relationship with a young person as anything else. We've done everything from online bible study, to accountability groups - you name it. I'm not saying that internet should replace time spent with young people .. but it sure can be helpful sometimes. hmmm… it’s interesting though the perception that quality youth work and using the web are somehow on opposite sides of the chasm? I’m exaggerating your point, I’m sure, but still…

There is are language, culture and safety thresholds that mean the internet is sometimes just as safe a starting point in relationship with a young person as anything else.

We’ve done everything from online bible study, to accountability groups – you name it. I’m not saying that internet should replace time spent with young people .. but it sure can be helpful sometimes.

]]> By: Brian http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718998 Brian Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:35:39 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718998 As an OLD youth worker, I remember times when the internet wasn't all that popular yet and it was still possible to do quality youth work. If these restrictions are put into place and adults are more restricted from communicating with teenagers via myspace(and similar sites) it won't kill youth work. We'll just have to figure out ways to do it differently. It might be a good thing to actually spend more time WITH students anyway! As an OLD youth worker, I remember times when the internet wasn’t all that popular yet and it was still possible to do quality youth work. If these restrictions are put into place and adults are more restricted from communicating with teenagers via myspace(and similar sites) it won’t kill youth work. We’ll just have to figure out ways to do it differently. It might be a good thing to actually spend more time WITH students anyway!

]]> By: marko http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718906 marko Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:48:48 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718906 well, it may or may not limit youth workers; but i think you're missing the point here. myspace has AGREED to make these adjustments -- they haven't made them yet. so an 11 year-old having an account is exactly what they're saying they're going to address. and two of the things they say they'll do are: 1. age verification (which would keep under 14s from having myspace, and limit 14 - 18s to the high school section). 2. create a high school section that people older than 18 couldn't access UNLESS the student invites them to their page. if those two things DO occur.... now you see my point? well, it may or may not limit youth workers; but i think you’re missing the point here. myspace has AGREED to make these adjustments — they haven’t made them yet. so an 11 year-old having an account is exactly what they’re saying they’re going to address. and two of the things they say they’ll do are:
1. age verification (which would keep under 14s from having myspace, and limit 14 – 18s to the high school section).
2. create a high school section that people older than 18 couldn’t access UNLESS the student invites them to their page.

if those two things DO occur…. now you see my point?

]]> By: othy http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718896 othy Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:41:20 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718896 there is a 11 yr old kid in my church that has a myspace account. Supposedly his parents know, but I'm not sure of the supervision. I also think that it will possibly limit youth workers contacts via myspace. there is a 11 yr old kid in my church that has a myspace account. Supposedly his parents know, but I’m not sure of the supervision. I also think that it will possibly limit youth workers contacts via myspace.

]]> By: Scott Watkins http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718841 Scott Watkins Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:14:30 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718841 I am never opposed to making sure that students are safe...especially in the myspace world. That being said, myspace is my primary means of communication with them, so....it might suck....I am not a big fan of the ol cell phone calling thing. I am never opposed to making sure that students are safe…especially in the myspace world. That being said, myspace is my primary means of communication with them, so….it might suck….I am not a big fan of the ol cell phone calling thing.

]]> By: marko http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718316 marko Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:42:19 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718316 yeah, candy -- i don't get the sense that they've implemented these new security measures. they've just agreed to make them. yeah, candy — i don’t get the sense that they’ve implemented these new security measures. they’ve just agreed to make them.

]]> By: Candy http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718243 Candy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:08:19 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718243 I saw a news report this morning where a 12 yr old girl opened a new MySpace account with the new security measures. All she had to do was lie about her age and it accepted her. Not too secure at all if you asked me. I saw a news report this morning where a 12 yr old girl opened a new MySpace account with the new security measures. All she had to do was lie about her age and it accepted her. Not too secure at all if you asked me.

]]> By: Dj http://whyismarko.com/2008/myspace-agrees-to-make-security-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-718081 Dj Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:01:57 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=2392#comment-718081 MySpace can implement all the changes in the world and it would never replace good ol' fashioned parental involvement! That doesn't completely release sites like MySpace from trying to be as safe as possible, but IMO there is more of a responsibility of parents to keep their kids safe. Not to mention it's still really easy for predators to get what they want off myspace or any space on the internet. As for youth workers, I don't know. 9 times out of 10 I get the requests from my kids instead of me seeking them out. MySpace can implement all the changes in the world and it would never replace good ol’ fashioned parental involvement! That doesn’t completely release sites like MySpace from trying to be as safe as possible, but IMO there is more of a responsibility of parents to keep their kids safe. Not to mention it’s still really easy for predators to get what they want off myspace or any space on the internet. As for youth workers, I don’t know. 9 times out of 10 I get the requests from my kids instead of me seeking them out.

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