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	<title>Comments on: Junior High Pastors summit notes, part 1</title>
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		<title>By: ysmarko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185954</link>
		<dc:creator>ysmarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] click here for part one. part 2 is the questions we asked dave in response to his talk (as well as his responses): [...]</description>
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		<title>By: . &#187; Marko is posting the Junior High Summit Notes</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185947</link>
		<dc:creator>. &#187; Marko is posting the Junior High Summit Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part One [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim L.</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185929</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the Asian-Americans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the Asian-Americans!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185921</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Marko. Next time i would be glad to offer suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Marko. Next time i would be glad to offer suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185920</link>
		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james, this has been a real struggle for us, and something we&#039;ve thought about and worked on quite a bit.  we&#039;ve had an african american or two attend in the past; but it&#039;s VERY hard to find veteran middle school ministry people in the african-american church.  please, if you know of any, we would LOVE to invite them.  i can&#039;t tell you how many african american youth ministry people i have asked for suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james, this has been a real struggle for us, and something we&#8217;ve thought about and worked on quite a bit.  we&#8217;ve had an african american or two attend in the past; but it&#8217;s VERY hard to find veteran middle school ministry people in the african-american church.  please, if you know of any, we would LOVE to invite them.  i can&#8217;t tell you how many african american youth ministry people i have asked for suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185919</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering how ironic to talk about ministry to middle school students without any african american middle school directors. It is ironic to talk about third culture ministry and see no african american in the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering how ironic to talk about ministry to middle school students without any african american middle school directors. It is ironic to talk about third culture ministry and see no african american in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: riddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love this stuff. 
it reminds me a bit of Peter Block.
I&#039;d be interested to hear more of what he&#039;s talking about when it comes to gifts being old school. if he&#039;s talking about assessment and plug people into slots in OUR program, then it really makes a lot of sense. because it&#039;s gap-based or deficiency based leadership (in other words the problems in our ministry get our attention and we try to find people to fill them... ie. filling slots)  but there is a new school of thought that says instead of looking outside the room and saying, what do we need people to do to fill all this gaps, we instead say, who&#039;s in the room and what are they good at? What are they pasionate about? how can we cultivate an environment that enables them to do it?

thanks for the notes Marko!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love this stuff.<br />
it reminds me a bit of Peter Block.<br />
I&#8217;d be interested to hear more of what he&#8217;s talking about when it comes to gifts being old school. if he&#8217;s talking about assessment and plug people into slots in OUR program, then it really makes a lot of sense. because it&#8217;s gap-based or deficiency based leadership (in other words the problems in our ministry get our attention and we try to find people to fill them&#8230; ie. filling slots)  but there is a new school of thought that says instead of looking outside the room and saying, what do we need people to do to fill all this gaps, we instead say, who&#8217;s in the room and what are they good at? What are they pasionate about? how can we cultivate an environment that enables them to do it?</p>
<p>thanks for the notes Marko!</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops -- just saw your second comment.  yeah, rich writes for us, speaks for us, and is a close friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8212; just saw your second comment.  yeah, rich writes for us, speaks for us, and is a close friend.</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
		<link>http://whyismarko.com/2009/junior-high-pastors-summit-notes-part-1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1185874</link>
		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeff -- i don&#039;t know rob van pelt.  do you mean rich van pelt?  rich is a good friend of YS (and has been for a very long time).  he&#039;s one of our authors and speakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeff &#8212; i don&#8217;t know rob van pelt.  do you mean rich van pelt?  rich is a good friend of YS (and has been for a very long time).  he&#8217;s one of our authors and speakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad I can&#039;t edit...wow, I just realized I messed up after I read what I actually typed/commented on your blog. 
His name is Rich Van Pelt and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard of him, but I just thought I&#039;d suggest him for some upcoming events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad I can&#8217;t edit&#8230;wow, I just realized I messed up after I read what I actually typed/commented on your blog.<br />
His name is Rich Van Pelt and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard of him, but I just thought I&#8217;d suggest him for some upcoming events.</p>
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