Comments on: sub-liminal http://whyismarko.com/2009/sub-liminal/ life, faith, youth ministry, emerging church, leadership, whimsy Wed, 23 May 2012 12:22:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Will Penner http://whyismarko.com/2009/sub-liminal/comment-page-1/#comment-1184690 Will Penner Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:32:48 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=3854#comment-1184690 For those of us who come from more liturgically-driven traditions, I think much of our worship life is geared more toward the sub-liminal than the liminal. There's something about the sacraments that gets under one's skin--even for those who don't yet feel it liminally, they are being formed at the subliminal level. When we recite the Lord's Prayer, Apostle's Creed, or other historic confessions of the church, holy activity is occurring whether we recognize it or not. For those of us who come from more liturgically-driven traditions, I think much of our worship life is geared more toward the sub-liminal than the liminal. There’s something about the sacraments that gets under one’s skin–even for those who don’t yet feel it liminally, they are being formed at the subliminal level. When we recite the Lord’s Prayer, Apostle’s Creed, or other historic confessions of the church, holy activity is occurring whether we recognize it or not.

]]> By: Kevin I http://whyismarko.com/2009/sub-liminal/comment-page-1/#comment-1184689 Kevin I Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:29:02 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=3854#comment-1184689 The only reason I know the word liminal is because of The SImpsons. On the Boy band episode they explain that the Navy has a three-pronged scheme to force people to enlist in the Navy: sub-liminal, liminal and super-liminal Lisa: "What's Super-Liminal?" Navy Guy opens the window and yells: "Hey You! Join the Navy!!" Lenny and Carl: "Alright...: The only reason I know the word liminal is because of The SImpsons.

On the Boy band episode they explain that the Navy has a three-pronged scheme to force people to enlist in the Navy: sub-liminal, liminal and super-liminal

Lisa: “What’s Super-Liminal?”
Navy Guy opens the window and yells: “Hey You! Join the Navy!!”
Lenny and Carl: “Alright…:

]]> By: Paul Loeffler http://whyismarko.com/2009/sub-liminal/comment-page-1/#comment-1184687 Paul Loeffler Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:53:09 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=3854#comment-1184687 Once again, you have done an amazing job of putting into words what I've been trying to communicate to the students and staff that I serve. Coming from a charismatic background, this sense is one I've grown up with just expecting, and there's much talk about it. However, right now I'm serving in a much more conservative community church, and I've been trying to help them understand this sense of God's presence. Unfortunately, my background hasn't done a good job of helping me to explain what I'm always just experienced. Thanks for the help. Once again, you have done an amazing job of putting into words what I’ve been trying to communicate to the students and staff that I serve. Coming from a charismatic background, this sense is one I’ve grown up with just expecting, and there’s much talk about it. However, right now I’m serving in a much more conservative community church, and I’ve been trying to help them understand this sense of God’s presence. Unfortunately, my background hasn’t done a good job of helping me to explain what I’m always just experienced. Thanks for the help.

]]> By: dan h. http://whyismarko.com/2009/sub-liminal/comment-page-1/#comment-1184685 dan h. Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:32:59 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=3854#comment-1184685 This is interesting. I can identify with the things you listed, and I'm wondering if this explains those "holy moments" I sometimes have while visiting with old folks too. I don't do it much, and always dread going to nursing homes and whatnot, but more times than not I've noticed that I will just be sitting there listening, or maybe nothing is even being said, and all of a sudden there's this "sense" that God is in the room or something. Hmm. Yeah. Thanks for sharing this. This is interesting. I can identify with the things you listed, and I’m wondering if this explains those “holy moments” I sometimes have while visiting with old folks too. I don’t do it much, and always dread going to nursing homes and whatnot, but more times than not I’ve noticed that I will just be sitting there listening, or maybe nothing is even being said, and all of a sudden there’s this “sense” that God is in the room or something.

Hmm. Yeah. Thanks for sharing this.

]]> By: Dan Wilt http://whyismarko.com/2009/sub-liminal/comment-page-1/#comment-1184683 Dan Wilt Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:30:24 +0000 http://www.ysmarko.com/?p=3854#comment-1184683 Mark, I began a piece/book on "The Liminal Locus" (i.e. on threshold places) some time ago relating these ideas to our understanding of worship. Might be interesting given what you've posted here. It's just a concept blurb, but it speaks to this. http://www.danwilt.com/liminal-locus-on-threshold-places/ Mark,

I began a piece/book on “The Liminal Locus” (i.e. on threshold places) some time ago relating these ideas to our understanding of worship. Might be interesting given what you’ve posted here.

It’s just a concept blurb, but it speaks to this.

http://www.danwilt.com/liminal-locus-on-threshold-places/

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