Comments on: the 10 commandments of (european) youth http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/ life, faith, youth ministry, emerging church, leadership, whimsy Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: samuel welsh http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1189274 samuel welsh Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:33:47 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1189274 God should be mentioned as well as socail　responcibility of no valgur language ,tagging binge drinking as well as responcible driving. Care and consideration for elderly too. God should be mentioned
as well as socail　responcibility of no valgur language ,tagging binge drinking
as well as responcible driving.
Care and consideration for elderly too.

]]> By: Catholic Youth Ministry Blog » A New Ten http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1189237 Catholic Youth Ministry Blog » A New Ten Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:03:10 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1189237 [...] year-olds in seven European countries of the hopes and dreams that inspire youth today.  (h/t Marko and ypulse) Part of the study asked 100 European youths to “challenge, criticise and [...] [...] year-olds in seven European countries of the hopes and dreams that inspire youth today.  (h/t Marko and ypulse) Part of the study asked 100 European youths to “challenge, criticise and [...]

]]> By: the 7 contemporary sins of youth — whyismarko http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188974 the 7 contemporary sins of youth — whyismarko Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:01:58 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188974 [...] week, i posted “the new 10 commandments“, as re-written by a group of 100 european young adults as part of an mtv sticky study. (the [...] [...] week, i posted “the new 10 commandments“, as re-written by a group of 100 european young adults as part of an mtv sticky study. (the [...]

]]> By: Scott Watkins http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188958 Scott Watkins Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:27:10 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188958 Tash: Love your comment! I totally agree that although God isn't mentioned overtly here, Divine fingerprints are all over it. Why? Because we are created in the image of the Divine! Furthermore, all creation is full of the Christ. Whether or not Christ has been revealed in all of creation is a different story. But Christ is present in humanity nonetheless. Given this, could it be that once we realize the need for Christ to be revealed in us, then having faith in ourselves IS (in a sense) having faith in Christ because we recognize that He is the only good thing at work in us and through us? I realize that the youth who wrote these commandments probably were not thinking this, but I think the statement of the need for faith is evidence of the Divine that is at work in them. Just a thought..... If we can look at these 10 commandments from an alternative perspective, then I think we can see the hope of glory that lies within the youth who spoke these refreshing words. Tash: Love your comment! I totally agree that although God isn’t mentioned overtly here, Divine fingerprints are all over it.

Why?

Because we are created in the image of the Divine! Furthermore, all creation is full of the Christ. Whether or not Christ has been revealed in all of creation is a different story. But Christ is present in humanity nonetheless. Given this, could it be that once we realize the need for Christ to be revealed in us, then having faith in ourselves IS (in a sense) having faith in Christ because we recognize that He is the only good thing at work in us and through us? I realize that the youth who wrote these commandments probably were not thinking this, but I think the statement of the need for faith is evidence of the Divine that is at work in them. Just a thought…..

If we can look at these 10 commandments from an alternative perspective, then I think we can see the hope of glory that lies within the youth who spoke these refreshing words.

]]> By: Kris Fernhout http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188953 Kris Fernhout Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:05:10 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188953 As someone who has worked in the US as a youth minister for 15 years and has for the past 18 months been living in the UK doing youth ministry...this list accurately represents the duality of culture here...Church of England...most schools are C of E with full uniforms, the Bishops of the C of E are major public figures, but the culture, live and morality is very secular post-Christian as reflected by these '10 commandments'. Further proof that the UK and Europe needs more people like you all to join us here to slowly reverse the fact that 97% of youth workers serve 3% of the population. As someone who has worked in the US as a youth minister for 15 years and has for the past 18 months been living in the UK doing youth ministry…this list accurately represents the duality of culture here…Church of England…most schools are C of E with full uniforms, the Bishops of the C of E are major public figures, but the culture, live and morality is very secular post-Christian as reflected by these ’10 commandments’.
Further proof that the UK and Europe needs more people like you all to join us here to slowly reverse the fact that 97% of youth workers serve 3% of the population.

]]> By: Robert Colquhoun http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188902 Robert Colquhoun Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:41:30 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188902 an interesting study! Many young people are looking for meaning and purpose and are very variable in their views. In a big convention in las vegas once, it was realised that young people did not really know what they wanted and the big companies realised that they had to tell young people what they wanted! an interesting study! Many young people are looking for meaning and purpose and are very variable in their views. In a big convention in las vegas once, it was realised that young people did not really know what they wanted and the big companies realised that they had to tell young people what they wanted!

]]> By: tash http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188897 tash Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:33:49 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188897 The interesting thing about this list being un-God centered are the remarkable qualities that scream out a sense of God fingerprints all over it. Self-respect, respect for others, honesty, integrity, staying hopeful, creating... loving others, working hard -= they scream out the echo of what we hope that Godliness looks like in our young people. I find it encouraging. Because I think the recognition of the importance of those ideals is key to recognizing the real truth of who God is when He's encountered. The interesting thing about this list being un-God centered are the remarkable qualities that scream out a sense of God fingerprints all over it.
Self-respect, respect for others, honesty, integrity, staying hopeful, creating… loving others, working hard -= they scream out the echo of what we hope that Godliness looks like in our young people. I find it encouraging. Because I think the recognition of the importance of those ideals is key to recognizing the real truth of who God is when He’s encountered.

]]> By: marko http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188896 marko Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:17:43 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188896 yeah, there's no question it's not god-centered. that was to be expected -- they weren't asking christian young people! and, yes, i totally agree (as did the ypulse author i quoted) that this is idealistic, and likely doesn't exactly mirror true behavior (though -- let's be honest -- our behavior doesn't always mirror our agreement to the original 10 commandments either!!). as for how i think the list would be different if it were U.S. young adults who created it: the big surprise on the list for me was "respect your parents." i think family and respect for older people is much more a part of the european value system, and that "commandment" wouldn't be on the U.S. list. otherwise, i think it might be fairly similar. there might be a "be true to yourself" kind of thing on there, reflecting american individualism. yeah, there’s no question it’s not god-centered. that was to be expected — they weren’t asking christian young people! and, yes, i totally agree (as did the ypulse author i quoted) that this is idealistic, and likely doesn’t exactly mirror true behavior (though — let’s be honest — our behavior doesn’t always mirror our agreement to the original 10 commandments either!!).

as for how i think the list would be different if it were U.S. young adults who created it: the big surprise on the list for me was “respect your parents.” i think family and respect for older people is much more a part of the european value system, and that “commandment” wouldn’t be on the U.S. list. otherwise, i think it might be fairly similar. there might be a “be true to yourself” kind of thing on there, reflecting american individualism.

]]> By: Ryan http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188894 Ryan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:28:45 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188894 I think this list is surprisingly accurate. I do think it shows a difference in the role of the church in Europe. If those youth were polled in America I would hope there would be at least one or two of the two influenced by the teachings of Jesus. I think this list is surprisingly accurate. I do think it shows a difference in the role of the church in Europe. If those youth were polled in America I would hope there would be at least one or two of the two influenced by the teachings of Jesus.

]]> By: pbj http://whyismarko.com/2009/the-10-commandments-of-european-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1188893 pbj Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:20:55 +0000 http://whyismarko.com/?p=6192#comment-1188893 Not saying I don't like it (I do, particularly with the #1 tweaked to include God and not self), but it's every show of Sesame Street ever created (which shows you how good Sesame Street is) as to no living out stated beliefs - growing distance between "conviction" and action...perhaps...but I'd argue it's standard operating procedure for fallen humanity to say we believe one thing and then to prove we don't by our actions Not saying I don’t like it (I do, particularly with the #1 tweaked to include God and not self), but

it’s every show of Sesame Street ever created (which shows you how good Sesame Street is)

as to no living out stated beliefs – growing distance between “conviction” and action…perhaps…but I’d argue it’s standard operating procedure for fallen humanity to say we believe one thing and then to prove we don’t by our actions

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