another awesomely conflicted review of ym3.0

on knotter’s blog

I picked up Marko’s new book “Youth Ministry 3.0” in Sacramento and decided that since Erin’s partying it up elsewhere tonight that I would see how far through it I could get.

I finished it. Mind you, it’s not a long book, so don’t give me too much credit!

Anyways, Marko introduced us to many of the thoughts in this book when he led the last General Session at NYWC, so I felt that this book filled in many of the gaps that I was left with after his talk. In some ways I felt like the talk was a teaser for the book.

The book describes many of the major shifts that have occurred in youth ministry over the years and how he believes that we’re making another shift now into what he would call Youth Ministry 3.0. A new approach to how we “do” it.

I’m just going to say a big I DON’T KNOW.

I am absolutely in agreement with some of what he says.

At the same time I find myself wrestling with other parts of it.

I’ve heard the arguments from many other youth pastors that the way we’re doing it (youth ministry) isn’t working. I’ve said it myself after watching countless students that have participated in leadership retreats and missions trips totally walk away from their faith.

It is frustrating and confusing.

Maybe I’ve done it wrong in the past. Maybe I’m doing it wrong now.

But then again, maybe that’s life? Maybe that’s what our journey with Jesus is supposed to look like? Maybe it is supposed to contain more living it out and less trying to figure it out?

I’m always trying to figure stuff out. How to teach better. How to understand teenagers better. How to reach parents. How to have quiet time. How to…how to…how to.

I wonder if maybe we’re missing the “here and now” aspect. Maybe we need to stop trying to figure out the next great thing and do “here and now” what works.

I’m not even sure what that looks like. How do we ever know if it works? Are we supposed to?

Good stuff to think about though. But since I think so much about praxis, all this general thinking is causing my head to swirl at an unreasonably high rate. And that is just not allowed on a day off.

I’m going to have to find something mindless to do until Erin gets home.

Thoughts? (Not on what to do now. Thoughts on what I’ve rambled about?)

here’s what i’m digging about this string of conflicted reviews (3 of them now! more to come, i’m sure). they’re wrestling with the ideas of the book, rather than dismissing it. even though they’re not sure i’m correct in my assessments and suggestions, they’re allowing ym 3.0 to stir their ministry thinking pot — and that is a great thing! i couldn’t appreciate it more. again, i’d much rather have a review like this (and the two i’ve posted previously), than a simply positive review that doesn’t show any actual engagement with the suggestions made in the book.

thanks, knotter!

5 thoughts on “another awesomely conflicted review of ym3.0”

  1. These reviews do make me want to read this book more.

    I don’t think anyone’s doing it right right now. Some are obviously better than others – but is anyone really doing it right? Is ANY ministry being done right?

    I don’t know that we’ll ever get it right. I love what this review had to say with talking about that. Can’t agree more with the “focus on the here and now.”

    But obviously our culture changes, and the kids change with the culture, and we need to be aware of that.

    I just download an ereader to my iphone, and will most likely be picking this up. Maybe I’ll actually finish a book now! LOL

  2. i was just going to say, but you said it at the end of your post, that i think the success of the book is that it is getting people thinking and talking about what they’re doing, instead of just doing it because that’s what they do. did that make any sense at all outside of my brain?

  3. I’m looking forward to reading this book. There is a definite hum out about it. Sounds like it may challenge our next moves as Youth Workers. Hope I get to read it.

  4. thanks for the shout out.

    but i think you’re getting too much joy out of making our brains hurt. after all, its was YOUR book that made me think about work on my day off!

    anyways, thanks for making us think. the last thing i ever want to be is a youth worker who shuts his brain off.

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